Apple’s new CEO, John Ternus, and head of marketing, Greg ‘Joz’ Joswiak, addressed the issue of copycat foldable phones during an interview with TechRadar’s Lance Ulanoff and Mark Spoonauer of Tom’s Guide. Despite leaks suggesting they were working on a foldable phone, Apple’s aspect ratio remained a secret. “Unfortunately, they got the aspect ratio,” said Joz, referring to Samsung, Huawei, and Xiaomi, who all announced wide foldables ahead of Apple.

However, what did remain a secret is the folding nano-texture display unique to the iPhone Duo. “What I’m super proud of – we kept it secret,” said Joz. “We put the extra security on it. We didn’t talk about it to anybody.”

The whole interview is worth a watch. Ternus’ boyish enthusiasm is a refreshing change from the more measured Tim Cook, signaling his roots as a hands-on engineer. As he described his first interaction with a prototype of the display, he said, “Oh this is it, this is what I want,” eagerly grinning.

The new head of Apple is clearly a product guy, just like its mercurial founder.